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Derath Ellecon
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Posted - 2012.09.24 18:56:00 -
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Annubis Lorn wrote:I suppose there won't be a single educated and proper response to this thread. Just more 12 yo shutins that don't have anything better to do than trash ppl in the forums and talk smack. Thanks guys for showing your ignorance. YAY EVE for attracting every ****** and ***hole in the gaming community.
And why should there be? Given the hundreds of other posts that have come up on the same subject?
I think the concept is called "beating a dead horse"
either way, there are plenty of valid in game counters to an afk cloaker. And other valid reasons to be able to stay cloaked for long periods of time (I have been cloaked off a pos for hours NOT AFK) just gathering intel. Of course thats in a WH where you wouldnt know I was there anyhow.
OOO, maybe you could start a "get rid of local" thread too. Haven't seen one of those in awhile either. |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings
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Posted - 2012.09.24 21:22:00 -
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Sjugar wrote:Easy solution: automatically log of clients after 30 minutes of inactivity.
Umm no.
The ability to cloak for extended periods isn't just about afk cloakers in your ratting systems. There are other valid times to cloak for extended times, sometimes even walking away from the computer for a little.
I had just such a situation that would have likely ended in my death had I been auto logged off after 30 min of activity.
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Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings
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Posted - 2012.09.26 14:33:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:You know the easiest solution to this, afk anything and possibly even bots(for a bit) would be to just have an afk timer like most other games.
No action in say 15 minutes(no typing no movement no interaction) and suddenly "You have been disconnected"
Solves so many issues in the game
And it will have 0 zero effect on anyone actually playing
Why hasn't this been done?
Because there are plenty of valid reasons you might be "afk" for longer than 15 minutes which this would break.
Fly a freighter much? I was moving a bunch of crap around last night. So if I set an autopilot to Jita I'd now have to go click in the window every 15 min just so i don't disconnect for the 90min autopilot session?
Recon, I've sat cloaked off someones POS in a WH for extended periods of time just gathering intel. I am at my computer, ususally doing something else with EVE on another screen just watching. I'm not moving on purpose and then 15min later YAY, I get disconnected while 100km from their pos. That's always fun.
Here's a fun fact. As everyone knows WH space has no local. So you never know if you have a cloaky in system (you can have certain levels of certainty but rarely 100%. So you have to operate assuming you are being watched. So just pretend your local is down and operate the same way. Problem solved. |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings
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Posted - 2012.09.27 14:56:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Zyella Stormborn wrote:Spam D-scan. last time i tried D-Scan didn't show any cloaked ships warping around..... Cloaked ships just appeared from nowhere on top of the gate and jumped!  Need to recheck it today.... Maybe we finally got ability to scan cloaked ships with probes? 
UR funny.
As far as I am aware, there is only one ship that can warp cloaked and lock immediately, which is stealth bombers. Everything else will have a 5 second targetting delay. So they will either have to decloak mid warp to be ready when they land, or they will decloak and hopefully try to bump.
Either way, if you are staying aligned etc you have a pretty darn good chance of getting out, either by catching the decloak in warp or with that 5 sec window when they decloak on grid.
I swear i never realized null bears were such a whiny bunch.
God forbid you went somewhere with no local. You wouldn't be able to leave the POS shields |
Derath Ellecon
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Posted - 2012.09.27 19:12:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:So you are saying CCP POSes mobile?
I think that was actually discussed in the minutes.
Is this supposed to make sense? POSses mobile? |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings
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Posted - 2012.10.01 02:35:00 -
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Karaan S'jeth wrote:Derath Ellecon wrote:March rabbit wrote:Zyella Stormborn wrote:Spam D-scan. last time i tried D-Scan didn't show any cloaked ships warping around..... Cloaked ships just appeared from nowhere on top of the gate and jumped! Need to recheck it today.... Maybe we finally got ability to scan cloaked ships with probes? UR funny. As far as I am aware, there is only one ship that can warp cloaked and lock immediately, which is stealth bombers. Everything else will have a 5 second targetting delay. So they will either have to decloak mid warp to be ready when they land, or they will decloak and hopefully try to bump. Either way, if you are staying aligned etc you have a pretty darn good chance of getting out, either by catching the decloak in warp or with that 5 sec window when they decloak on grid. I swear i never realized null bears were such a whiny bunch. God forbid you went somewhere with no local. You wouldn't be able to leave the POS shields obviously you never heard of a Covert Ops Cyno.
Obviously you are comparing apples and oranges. Where was I talking about hotdrops? Oh yea I wasn't. Not that a hotdrop isnt a good (but different) example. |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings
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Posted - 2012.10.02 04:20:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:
say goodbye to your drones. Or to your friend who left for bio for a minute.
OMG NOT THE DRONES. Hopefully thats like what, a couple minutes of ratting to replace them? Are you seriously going to use the argument that you might have to leave your drones behind?
As to your friend, he's an idiot if he goes to take a bio during that time. A cloaker in system shouldn't make you have to run and hide, but you should still use some common sense.
March rabbit wrote:Wh -> empire: you know: when you leave your cave the world become bigger, stranger and more danger Everyone starts from fear or dreamed monsters.... and one day you leave home and see: there is real dangers int the world 
Huh? Is this supposed to even make sense? |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings
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Posted - 2012.10.03 00:22:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:lol... show me instant shop in 0.0 where you can buy anything?
Show me a shop in any WH system i've been in? It's called stocking up. You can't tell me you don't buy spares of stuff when you do Jita runs?
Lame counterpoint.
March rabbit wrote:hm.... few pages above people argued about "15 minutes afk -> disconnect" because of bio and stuff....
Yea they argued that for cloakers...
Regardless of whether the system is empty or not, what idiot leaves a ship just floating in space in 0.0 (not cloaked). Even if the system is empty a roaming gang could pass thru during your bio.
March rabbit wrote:because all you said is about wormholes and can't be used outside 
Nicely done missing the point. That point being you have cloakers in WH space all the time. And you can't ever even tell since there is no local. Yet people manage to get things done.
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